Angels & HID Lights on MRoadster

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 12:39

Got round to uploading a few pics of the lights

and some arty farty pics.................

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 12:56

I quite like that! (not the "arty farty" shots though

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What make are they? how are they fitted and how much?

Alfie · Post by **Alfie** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 12:58

Nice.

Very very nice.

A.

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 13:15

c_w wrote:I quite like that! (not the "arty farty" shots though )

I was experimenting with colours IMO I like the orange one. why didn't BMW make that ? except for the ACS one. The green ones not bad either

bu you all know I would say that

c_w wrote:What make are they? how are they fitted and how much?

Ben at chromelinedesign fits them. PM him for frices and fitting

Paul.Stuhlfelder · Post by **Paul.Stuhlfelder** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 16:48

Lovely, definately something I'd like to get done to the car

I really hate the yellow look sidemarkers on the car at the moment!

Bloke · Post by **Bloke** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 17:09

Looks great Jay,

Bloke

Big Mr P · Post by **Big Mr P** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 17:32

Jay,

they look good. I had Better not let Amanda see them, she will demand I get some.

Arty farty, love the Imolla

///M_aniac · Post by **///M_aniac** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 17:55

Jay,

They look sweet. Your Zed looks mighty fine too.

Best

Big Mr P · Post by **Big Mr P** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 18:43

Jay,
just noticed the M Badge new is it.

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Wed 08 Mar, 2006 19:26

They look absolutely superb Jay!! Thanks for posting up the pics.

The angels are £99.95 plus £150 fitting
The HIDs are £209.95 plus £39.95 fitting charge

The xenon look side markers are £9.95 per pair (free if the above two are purchased)

I also suppy xenon look reverse bulbs, xenon look interior bulb, hyperwhite headlight bulbs and chrome (amber flash) indicator bulbs too.

Forum members with the Angel conversion thus far:
Leelee
Fixer
BimBeemer
Jay
Tim
Rob the Bruce

And I have enquiries from five other forum members pending at this time.

Please feel free to PM me any questions regarding these items.

Ben.

BimBeema · Post by **BimBeema** » Thu 09 Mar, 2006 21:38

Apart from the angel lights, I've also had the xenon white side bulbs and interior bulb and hyperwhite mainbeam and headlights and chrome/silver indicators bulbs all round and they make a big difference for a very reasonable price - all courtesy of Ben @ Chromeline Design.

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Thu 09 Mar, 2006 21:40

BimBeema wrote:Apart from the angel lights, I've also had the xenon white side bulbs and interior bulb and hyperwhite mainbeam and headlights and chrome/silver indicators bulbs all round and they make a big difference for a very reasonable price - all courtesy of Ben @ Chromeline Design.

What you need now are the HID's

One word..................................... Bright

It makes night time driving so much better.

AussieZ3 · Post by **AussieZ3** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 02:36

Are they self levelling??

Do you still retain the headlight motor to control the beam angle?

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 02:44

AussieZ3 wrote:Are they self levelling???

Not sure what you mean there

AussieZ3 wrote:Do you still retain the headlight motor to control the beam angle?

Yes you still have full function of headlight motor adjuster thingy.

AussieZ3 · Post by **AussieZ3** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 04:03

Hey Jay,

Over here "by law" all HID lights have to be self levelling.
Basically what it means is that the lights are connected to an electronic gyroscope. So as you go over speed humps, bumps etc in the road, the computer automatically tilts the lights to avoid dazzling other drivers, so basically the beams stays horizontal at all times.

All factory HID lights come like this.

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 10:29

AussieZ3 wrote:Hey Jay,

Over here "by law" all HID lights have to be self levelling.
Basically what it means is that the lights are connected to an electronic gyroscope.

They appear to be fixed.

Don't know if that law applies over here or not. Any takers?

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 11:06

It does indeed apply Jay.

HIDs on these cars and indeed most retrofit kits are technically illegal.

However, it is a law that is seldom enforced.

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 11:20

So does the HID kit consist of a "HID" type HB3 bulb that replaces the orignal (along with the HID electrics? does the main/high beam stay a normal bulb?

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 11:51

c_w wrote:So does the HID kit consist of a "HID" type HB3 bulb that replaces the orignal (along with the HID electrics? does the main/high beam stay a normal bulb?

That's almost correct mate. The HID glass capsule (hb4 FITMENT) sits in the dipped position, and is linked to its ballast box, which I hide away under the bumper carrier. The HB3 bulb sits as it was in the full beam position.

Needless to say, you can have 2 kits fitted if you so wish, or three, many of my e36/e46/e39 customers have multiple kits in their cars, the only tricky thing is locating all the ballast boxes.

Ben.

John Boy · Post by **John Boy** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 11:52

JAY, Looking good mate, looking good.

Chromeline Design wrote:It does indeed apply Jay.

HIDs on these cars and indeed most retrofit kits are technically illegal.

However, it is a law that is seldom enforced.

That's a very interesting point and worth remembering when considering HID conversions.

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 12:07

Hmmmmmmmmmm this was never mentioned to me

garyw · Post by **garyw** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 13:02

Ben, the xeonon look side marker lamps, are they the push in type, I would be very interested in the look for mine.. Porsche 996
Looking at Jays I find its those that finish it off in detail.

Jay I also noticed the headlights are very blue... Yes HID are a blue-ish white, but in comparison your HIDs make mine look yellow

mind you mine do self-level

garyw

Alfie · Post by **Alfie** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 13:14

garyw wrote:mind you mine do self-level

Ner ner na ner ner.....

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 13:49

garyw wrote:Ben, the xeonon look side marker lamps, are they the push in type, I would be very interested in the look for mine.. Porsche 996
Looking at Jays I find its those that finish it off in detail.

Jay I also noticed the headlights are very blue... Yes HID are a blue-ish white, but in comparison your HIDs make mine look yellow mind you mine do self-level

garyw

They are the push in type, I sell hundreds of sets to bmw owners, merc oweners and indeed porsche owners 996/997, its seems strange how they fit HIDs as standard and then use a very yellow looking side marker light to compliment it. Would you like a set?

The HIDs installed in Jays car are the "8000K colour temperature", I have fitted these in MrTims car too. These will appear much more blue than the HIDs in your car (4100K colour temp). I offer kits anywhere between 6 and 10000K, and use 8000K as the happy medium.

Jay, I'm really sorry I didnt inform you about this, I was certain that I had. Maybe its because I'm used to selling them on other forums where its sort of "common knowledge".

Hoever, I really wouldnt worry , I've sold somewhere in the region of 200 retrofit HID kits now, for BMWs, Veedubs, Mercs, Audis, Saabs, Skodas and even a Bentley, all of which do not have self levelling headlamps. To this date, none of them have been pulled up about it or failed an MOT. Let be honest, how many MOT testers would be able to tell the difference between the two types of lighting at the brief flick of a switch?

Also if the worst comes to the worst, the original headlight bulbs can be swapped back in a matter of seconds anyway.

Ben.

garyw · Post by **garyw** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 15:32

I'm going to sort out which lamp is also in the additional main beam and get an uprated one in there also, but yes I will PM you and see if you have them also, I may pop in as I'm in the West Mids quite regularly...

garyw

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Fri 10 Mar, 2006 17:30

I'm over in Nuneaton a lot anyway mate, so I'm sure we can sort something out.

Ben.

Lee2 · Post by **Lee2** » Mon 20 Mar, 2006 09:43

Hi, I'm over in Spain and have a left hooker but with UK headlights, I need a pair of headlights for a left hand drive in order to get my car through Spanish MOT, can you provide these as well? Lee

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Tue 21 Mar, 2006 14:43

Yes I can lee,

But they are not cheap!!

Lee2 · Post by **Lee2** » Wed 29 Mar, 2006 13:05

Are the angel eyes good for visability at night or just for show?

JAY · Post by **JAY** » Wed 29 Mar, 2006 13:13

Lee2 wrote:Are the angel eyes good for visability at night or just for show?

Just for show.

They are very bright to look at, but in no ways will they give you any visability driving.

///M_aniac · Post by **///M_aniac** » Wed 29 Mar, 2006 13:18

They really do look great.

djrobbier · Post by **djrobbier** » Tue 11 Apr, 2006 13:33

May I ask a bit of a newbie-like question...What is a HID?? Is than a Zenon thing? Love the angel eyes, I think I may well have to take up the offer! They look awesome

Robin · Post by **Robin** » Tue 11 Apr, 2006 13:38

HID = High intensity discharge.
Or could = 'High I damage' to oncoming drivers also I guess.
I'm surprised they are legal to be honest.
Especially on cars not designed for them & that therefore don't have automatic adjusters.

djrobbier · Post by **djrobbier** » Tue 11 Apr, 2006 20:08

Robin wrote:HID = High intensity discharge.
Or could = 'High I damage' to oncoming drivers also I guess.
I'm surprised they are legal to be honest.
Especially on cars not designed for them & that therefore don't have automatic adjusters.

cheers for the info, I think I am only really interested in the angel eye bit anyways, mind you do you need the HID in order for it to work?

AJL · Post by **AJL** » Tue 11 Apr, 2006 20:28

djrobbier wrote:
Robin wrote:HID = High intensity discharge.
Or could = 'High I damage' to oncoming drivers also I guess.
I'm surprised they are legal to be honest.
Especially on cars not designed for them & that therefore don't have automatic adjusters.
cheers for the info, I think I am only really interested in the angel eye bit anyways, mind you do you need the HID in order for it to work?

No, You can have just angels but then you will realise you need HID's!

R80TER · Post by **R80TER** » Thu 20 Apr, 2006 15:19

on estoril blue???

///M_aniac · Post by **///M_aniac** » Thu 20 Apr, 2006 19:21

Again, these look great, m8.

AJL · Post by **AJL** » Thu 20 Apr, 2006 19:43

How you finding the headlight colour with those bad boys on at night!

R80TER · Post by **R80TER** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 07:03

AJL wrote:How you finding the headlight colour with those bad boys on at night!

didnt get a chance to find out dude!! will let you know!

Glasgow2.8 · Post by **Glasgow2.8** » Mon 12 Jun, 2006 22:11

And yes, I know I need white side lights.......

flyingalexf68 · Post by **flyingalexf68** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 10:03

Not to mention clear/white indicator lenses and the chrome indicator bulbs. And how do you get away with that reg plate? Its so blurred.

Looks great though. I hope to get them soon. So many other bills at the moment. (Don't buy your girlfriend a horse. Damn money pits).

djrobbier · Post by **djrobbier** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 11:06

flyingalexf68 wrote:Not to mention clear/white indicator lenses and the chrome indicator bulbs. And how do you get away with that reg plate? Its so blurred.

Looks great though. I hope to get them soon. So many other bills at the moment. (Don't buy your girlfriend a horse. Damn money pits).

You should say horses are obsolete, as man invented the internal combustion engine to counter horses apparent laziness and untrustworthiness. He even rubbed it in by measuring how good it was against said animal!

///M_aniac · Post by **///M_aniac** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 13:04

Looking good.

I actually like the amber indicator lenses on my Zed. Suits the green colour of the car.

C

Glasgow2.8 · Post by **Glasgow2.8** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 17:38

Was going to go down that route but have decided not to.

As for the reg plate, when your 2.8 travels so quickly...........

John Boy · Post by **John Boy** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 18:02

Glasgow2.8 wrote:Was going to go down that route but have decided not to.

Looks good just as it is to me

Glasgow2.8 · Post by **Glasgow2.8** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 18:11

John Boy wrote:
Glasgow2.8 wrote:Was going to go down that route but have decided not to.
Looks good just as it is to me

Cheers John Boy

flyingalexf68 · Post by **flyingalexf68** » Tue 13 Jun, 2006 21:11

Maybe this is a silly question but is there any way we can buy yellow angel eyes, ie. the same as the 5 series? That would save all the hassel of changing the other bulbs. And I think the yellow light suits some colour cars more than white. (Mine's Red)

Glasgow2.8 · Post by **Glasgow2.8** » Wed 14 Jun, 2006 06:36

flyingalexf68 wrote:Maybe this is a silly question but is there any way we can buy yellow angel eyes, ie. the same as the 5 series? That would save all the hassel of changing the other bulbs. And I think the yellow light suits some colour cars more than white. (Mine's Red)

The original designs used LED lighting technology which had a variety of colour casts as it is difficult (impossible) to make a white LED - they use other colours with light filters to make them white (if I remember correctly).

AFAIK, there were other colour combinations, but these quickly disappeared when the makers moved to cold cathode technology.

Don't think you'll be able to find anything else on the market today.

Happy to be corrected though...

///M_aniac · Post by **///M_aniac** » Wed 14 Jun, 2006 08:41

Other colours would be very cool, without going chavtastic!

Chromeline Design · Post by **Chromeline Design** » Fri 29 Sep, 2006 08:55

oops, sorry.

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