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S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 14:19
by finnbar
Hi All,

I'm selling my S54 engined Z3 M Roadster through Munich Legends. I bought the car from Russell Jones (who some of you may know) in 2009.

It's Estoril Blue with black leather and has done 43k miles. See the Munich Legends website for photos. I'm sure they'll post a more detailed description soon:

http://www.munichlegends.co.uk/componen ... ew,detail/

Kind regards,


Finnbar

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 14:57
by Gazza
It says POA, what's the price ?

Topic has been moved to The Stock Exchange.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 16:26
by Alfie
I've known this car for many years. Russ looked after it really well and it was a fabulous example when he 'went over to the dark side' (Merc SLK....) :D and if it's been maintained since then, it'll be a great opportunity for someone to grab that elusive collector's piece.

Very interested to see the price.... :?:

GLWTS

Cheers.
A.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 16:47
by gookah
What is the point of POA?
as soon as someone phones and finds out, if they post it on the web, it is there for all to see.

or does it imply that priced items are only for the plebs, and POA are for the more discerning?
"Only those with a genuine interest will phone", well if it is priced correctly, then the genuine interest may be wider.
Or they are protecting embarrassing the buyer by revealing how much they actually suckered them into paying for it.

Anyway, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
:D

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 17:19
by finnbar
It won't be POA for long. Just while they do pre-sales inspection and decide if it needs any work.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 17:55
by finnbar
@Alfie I think we met at Silverstone Classic a couple of years ago so you've seen the car fairly recently ;-)

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 20:17
by Del
Very nice looking car and very rare - that dealer looks the right sort of place to sell a BMW classic. I'm not surprised the price of Z3Ms is generally rising as it is happening across the classic car market generally - something like a Lotus Cortina is now amazingly high :shock:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 06 Jul, 2015 22:11
by Alfie
finnbar wrote:@Alfie I think we met at Silverstone Classic a couple of years ago so you've seen the car fairly recently ;-)
Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot that. :dunce:

If I remember right, the car was still very much in top condition at Silverstone.... 8-)
And still is judging by the current photos at ML.

A.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Thu 16 Jul, 2015 23:28
by Y_Cymro
In my experience POA is used when the car is overpriced

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 17 Jul, 2015 09:01
by Cooper01
suggestion to the owner - get them to remove the Transport Protection Package in the description. I believe that is just plastic over the panels and stuff like that from when it was new. It kinda shows that they don't know anything about Zeds. Just sayin' :)

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 17 Jul, 2015 09:25
by Phil
Munich Legends know lots about Zeds.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 17 Jul, 2015 09:28
by Cooper01
Phil wrote:Munich Legends know lots about Zeds.
Thought so, I was just teasing! :) I am just analy retentive on details like that.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 17 Jul, 2015 12:26
by finnbar
I've just had a chat with Dan at Munich Legends, and having completed their pre-sales inspection they've now priced the car at £25,995.

That price and a full (and accurate!) description should go up on their website early next week.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 15:59
by finnbar
Complete advert now on the Munich Legends website:
http://www.munichlegends.co.uk/item/bmw ... adster-s54

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 16:10
by gookah
it looks a fine example too

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 21:50
by pingu
Looks very nice and I'm sure that it will sell, but Munich Legends (or should that be Muich Legends) have done themselves no favours with this advert.

I'd be kicking off if I were you about their lack of attention to detail in the description...

I'll bet that it doesn't have any of the following...

CD changer - why was this on the build sheet in the first place?
BMW Business RDS Radio.
Battery Master Switch.
Transportation Protection.

They can't even get their own e-mail address correct.

If I were a potential buyer I'd be tempted by the Z1s in the background. You want your car to be the only thing that a potential punter is interested in.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 22:29
by Jonttt
Mmmmm, seems a bit misleading to state there where only 73 S54's........there where on 73 right hand drive S54's..... And it states it has all the options which it does not eg it's not got side airbags. It does have a strong strut brace though.

Personally I'd rather have a rarer Imola one with some upgrades to improve the experience :lol:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 22 Jul, 2015 22:54
by chill4x4saph
add seems ok to me!

perhaps if one was to be pedantic the 73 thing is not the whole truth, but I would suppose the fact its a uk based dealers and they are talking about uk RHD cars so its no biggie imo

best colour, (it was the most popular choice for a reason!) full black leather rather than the (can be a bit garish) two tone, and a hardtop fitted from the factory.

If I had one criticism it would be the timing, as parkside also have a very similarly equipped/specced/mileage one available too which doesn't do anything to help highlight its rarity!

but still a very rare car, with low miles and a great spec!...., proof of the pudding will be in the eating!...., or rather selling!!!

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Thu 23 Jul, 2015 08:34
by finnbar
Thanks for the all the feedback guys.

Actually the car does have BMW Business RDS & CD Changer. Both are in the boot and are to be reinstalled by Munich Legends as part of the sale price if the buyer so desires. I thought it was best to give the buyer the option, as the CD changer takes a lot of precious boot space.

@chill4x4saph: You're right, the timing is unfortunate what with Parkside selling an almost identical car (amazing as I've never seen another S54 in the same colour combination for sale). I wish I'd decided to sell earlier this year, but wasn't quite ready to let go of the car.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Thu 23 Jul, 2015 17:59
by c_w
Suspension doesn't look stock, but it's looks better for it.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Thu 23 Jul, 2015 22:19
by Jonttt
chill4x4saph wrote:add seems ok to me!

perhaps if one was to be pedantic the 73 thing is not the whole truth, but I would suppose the fact its a uk based dealers and they are talking about uk RHD cars so its no biggie imo

best colour, (it was the most popular choice for a reason!) full black leather rather than the (can be a bit garish) two tone, and a hardtop fitted from the factory.

If I had one criticism it would be the timing, as parkside also have a very similarly equipped/specced/mileage one available too which doesn't do anything to help highlight its rarity!

but still a very rare car, with low miles and a great spec!...., proof of the pudding will be in the eating!...., or rather selling!!!
Don't get me wrong it is a very nice car :wink:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 24 Jul, 2015 06:25
by Southernboy
I'm somewhat bemused by the "but" word used in the comments by some respondents here..... "It looks very nice, and I'm sure it will sell, BUT....."
I have always considered the word "but" to mean - disregard what I have just said, and now listen.... Surprising how we are all "experts" even though not directly in the vehicle marketing and sales industry. Perhaps the motivation to the seller is :- "don't be disappointed if your asking price isn't achieved".
How many of us have an "asking price" and a "selling price" that are somewhat different ? I am absolutely sure it will sell, perhaps not at the "asking" price.

Personally I would love that it sells at the asking price, simply because it will have positive fallout on all Z3's which are in good condition etc etc. By example, the 70's Mercedes SL range which had the 500 / 450 / 300 and 280 SLC models, of which the humble 280 / 6cyl is the most sought after currently, and which fetches 4 times and more the price of it's more powerful siblings.
I would hazard the small Z3 6's and the 4's have a greater chance of becoming "desirable" than the 3.0 and 2,8 versions. They will be sought more by virtue of economy and their "nippy" drive which attract women and sensible male drivers who enjoy open top driving without the need for speed syndrome. TBH, the Z3 isn't very quick compared to the current smaller engine turbo assisted offerings, so a larger capacity motor is only relative within the Z3 family and since open top motoring is the prime motivation for owning these cars, one may as well settle into a comfortable cruise and enjoy the journey even if you arrive at the destination 5 or 10 minutes after the more powerful motors.... :wink:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 24 Jul, 2015 12:13
by pingu
Southernboy wrote:I'm somewhat bemused by the "but" word used in the comments by some respondents here..... "It looks very nice, and I'm sure it will sell, BUT....."
The comments were more about Muich Legends and their reputation (which is good) than about the car (which I think looks excellent).

Muich Legends are very similar (IMO) to Hexagon in Finchley, but if you are lucky enough to be able to ride their wave, good luck to you :D . I'm sure that I would be doing the same if I were SELLING.

Lots of subtle stuff there. I hope you got the gist. I don't want to commit libel :wink: .

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Sat 25 Jul, 2015 09:11
by Jonttt
I have no issue with the car or price, I'm actually surprised it's not priced a little higher by them BUT the advert I think could have been worded better :wink: high end dealer I have high expectations for them to get everything right, especially the advert :rtm:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Tue 28 Jul, 2015 11:56
by finnbar
@c_w you really do know your Z3Ms! You're right, the suspension is non-stock. It's got the ACS Sport suspension, bought from Rossiters. I've been very impressed with the way the car rides and handles, especially since fitting the Strong Strut brace. I mentioned this to ML when they did the pre-sales inspection so I am surprised it's not mentioned in the ad. I'll give them another call today.

Thanks for all the comments.

As I'm sure you'll all appreciate, it's quite difficult to put a price on S54 Z3MRs as they are so rare so only come up for sale occasionally. My car is priced £1,500 below this almost identical car, so I don't think the price is ridiculous:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... 54/4368571

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Tue 28 Jul, 2015 14:42
by Badman gee
Good luck with the sale, it's a lovely car

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Sat 19 Sep, 2015 11:54
by finnbar
For everyone wondering about the current values of S54 Z3MRs, I'm pleased to report that mine sold for the asking price of £25,995. ML delivered it to the happy new owner this week. I hope he enjoys owning it as much as I did :-)

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Sat 19 Sep, 2015 21:54
by Jonttt
Thanks for taking the trouble to update the thread. That's great to know

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Tue 22 Sep, 2015 09:30
by Alfie
Congrats on the sale.
Hopefully the new owner will come and celebrate on here!
A.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Tue 22 Sep, 2015 14:08
by Phil
Thanks for the update. Great bit of news.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Wed 23 Sep, 2015 08:05
by chill4x4saph
excellent!!!, and thanks for the update.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 25 Sep, 2015 20:00
by eahornel1
You would think they would have put sold on it by now wouldn't you. :?:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Fri 25 Sep, 2015 21:46
by Jonttt
Dealers often leave cars up for sale that have sold to generate enquiries, helps the cynics state cars are overpriced and don't sell :lol:

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 28 Sep, 2015 01:24
by Alfie
I was passing ML last Friday (not in RED) so I popped in just in case the car was still there, but it had been collected already.
I got chatting to the sales lady who said that collectors are now becoming aware of the extreme rarity of the ///M Roadster and that they get genuine enquiries almost every week from people searching for one. Obviously ML are really keen to get hold of some more examples...

A.

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 28 Sep, 2015 08:40
by chill4x4saph
Alfie wrote:I was passing ML last Friday (not in RED) so I popped in just in case the car was still there, but it had been collected already.
I got chatting to the sales lady who said that collectors are now becoming aware of the extreme rarity of the ///M Roadster and that they get genuine enquiries almost every week from people searching for one. Obviously ML are really keen to get hold of some more examples...

A.
good to hear people are starting to realise just how special they are!!

Re: S54 Z3 M Roadster for sale

Posted: Mon 28 Sep, 2015 08:54
by Renaud
Hello All,

I know its not a roadster, but there is an S54 Coupe for sale at £44,995 at the moment:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/ ... le/4735480

There is also a related thread on the same subject on Pistonheads:

http://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph- ... tted/32964

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