Strong Strut - possible group buy?
Strong Strut - possible group buy?
Hi all.
RED is still in need of a front strut brace and despite extensive research, I can only find a few brands that look as if they might fit the S54 engine. The problem is a breather pipe that sits proud right in the middle of the engine. This clashes with almost all models of brace.
Our Aquatic Gazza has successfully fitted a Wiechers Domstrebe brace to his S54, which is damn cheap, but I don't like the fact that it only fixes to two bolts each side and I'm not over-keen on the look either (sorry mate! Just IMHO).
Ben at Chromeline ordered me a very tasty looking Schnitzer replica brace in the shape of a girder. It looked the absolute biz, but sadly was the wrong length for an ///MR and the bolt orientation was wrong too. I was gutted when we offered it up and it didn't fit! I've tried to find the original ACS version of the same thing, but with no luck.
I've seen a nice one which has a slight bend in the middle to pass in front the breather pipe, but I don't know what brand it is, and there's one on the MK Motorsport website but it's labelled as 'coming soon' and their blurb says 'don't contact us about anything that's not shown, because we don't do it....' which scared me off calling them!
So this has led me to the conclusion that I'm gonna have to break the piggy bank again and place my order with Strong Strut.
There's no doubt that they are the top of the class in every respect. The design is perfect and the build quality is (so I've heard) superb. But obviously that all adds up to a pretty hefty price tag.
I priced up my choice from the American SS website advertised above this post, and it came to $515 all in, which is about £260 at the moment. Pretty good I thought. So I contacted CA Automotive who distribute SS in the UK, and they priced the same thing at £330, stating that they must add VAT and import duty to the US price. Ouch.
But they did offer to do a discount of 10% if I could place an order of five or more units, which works out at £297. That's a bit better.
Sooooo....
If anyone fancies getting hold of the very best strut brace for any model of Zed at a decent price without the hassle of ordering and importing yourself, please reply here or send me a PM.
There are options on finish, materials and accessory kits which are all detailed in the SS site linked from the top of this page, but initially I only need you to register your interest and we can work out the details from there. Delivery time is approx. 2 weeks from order.
Let me know soon please.....
Cheers.
Alfie.
RED is still in need of a front strut brace and despite extensive research, I can only find a few brands that look as if they might fit the S54 engine. The problem is a breather pipe that sits proud right in the middle of the engine. This clashes with almost all models of brace.
Our Aquatic Gazza has successfully fitted a Wiechers Domstrebe brace to his S54, which is damn cheap, but I don't like the fact that it only fixes to two bolts each side and I'm not over-keen on the look either (sorry mate! Just IMHO).
Ben at Chromeline ordered me a very tasty looking Schnitzer replica brace in the shape of a girder. It looked the absolute biz, but sadly was the wrong length for an ///MR and the bolt orientation was wrong too. I was gutted when we offered it up and it didn't fit! I've tried to find the original ACS version of the same thing, but with no luck.
I've seen a nice one which has a slight bend in the middle to pass in front the breather pipe, but I don't know what brand it is, and there's one on the MK Motorsport website but it's labelled as 'coming soon' and their blurb says 'don't contact us about anything that's not shown, because we don't do it....' which scared me off calling them!
So this has led me to the conclusion that I'm gonna have to break the piggy bank again and place my order with Strong Strut.
There's no doubt that they are the top of the class in every respect. The design is perfect and the build quality is (so I've heard) superb. But obviously that all adds up to a pretty hefty price tag.
I priced up my choice from the American SS website advertised above this post, and it came to $515 all in, which is about £260 at the moment. Pretty good I thought. So I contacted CA Automotive who distribute SS in the UK, and they priced the same thing at £330, stating that they must add VAT and import duty to the US price. Ouch.
But they did offer to do a discount of 10% if I could place an order of five or more units, which works out at £297. That's a bit better.
Sooooo....
If anyone fancies getting hold of the very best strut brace for any model of Zed at a decent price without the hassle of ordering and importing yourself, please reply here or send me a PM.
There are options on finish, materials and accessory kits which are all detailed in the SS site linked from the top of this page, but initially I only need you to register your interest and we can work out the details from there. Delivery time is approx. 2 weeks from order.
Let me know soon please.....
Cheers.
Alfie.
Dont forget if you import an item yourself that you are still liable to import duty and VAT before you can receive the goods, if the Customs and Excise people spot your parcel
Gazza.
Gazza.
Gazza
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
I'm told that any dealings with SS USA will be directly passed on to CA Automotive UK. Maybe that's come round since your transaction?Boysie wrote:Go direct to strong strut
Ok.....my figure of $515 was for a steel SS with 'extra holes' plus 'large' accessory kit, plus delivery to UK.Boysie wrote:Mine came to about $460 = £241 all in
I'm sure the US price hasn't changed, but the exchange rate obviously has.
Good to hear.....that backs up all I was saying.Boysie wrote:And yes, the build quality and fit is second to none.
Jay....
Is yours the chrome finish????
Looks really yummy, but a lot more pricey.
A.
Hi
I used paypal to buy my strut
So so easy
This is the Man to speak to, very helpful
azz3man@cox.net
My strut has holes, large accessory kit
It looks the DB's
And they chucked in a fitting kit for my brother's Z4
He has the BMW one fitted,
after seeing mine he wished he had got a SS
Ray
I used paypal to buy my strut
So so easy
This is the Man to speak to, very helpful
azz3man@cox.net
My strut has holes, large accessory kit
It looks the DB's
And they chucked in a fitting kit for my brother's Z4
He has the BMW one fitted,
after seeing mine he wished he had got a SS
Ray
Alfie,
I dealt with Strong Strutt direct, but that was 3 years ago. Back them CA Automotive was not a distributor and SS used to have a special link for UK pricing. I don't see that now.
IMO, the best looking brace out there. In black, it looks stock and I am contemplating adding the rear strutt and body brace. Good Luck!
Mine is the Alloy bar in flat black!
I dealt with Strong Strutt direct, but that was 3 years ago. Back them CA Automotive was not a distributor and SS used to have a special link for UK pricing. I don't see that now.
IMO, the best looking brace out there. In black, it looks stock and I am contemplating adding the rear strutt and body brace. Good Luck!
Mine is the Alloy bar in flat black!
Hi Stewart, yes you would notice the difference
Gazza.
Gazza.
Gazza
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
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Ditto,Boysie wrote:Hi
Go direct to strong strut
Mine came to about $460 = £241 all in
That was when the dollar was not so good
And yes the build quality and fit is second to none
And service, plus tracking was great
Ray
I ordered direct from strongstrut and the service was great. No import duty as they stated package order less than $50. received with 7 days.
Paid paypal and could not be easier.
hope this helps.
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Sounds dodgy. Are UK customs really that easy to fool?///M Breadvan wrote:No import duty as they stated package order less than $50.
Boysie wrote:Go direct to strong strut. Mine came to about $460 = £241 all in.
Roy at CA is very helpful and doing his best to strike a deal, but I'll have a look elsewhere.///M Breadvan wrote:Ditto, I ordered direct from strongstrut and the service was great.
Thanks for your help.
Interested so far:
Alfie - Front strut
Tuxman - Front strut
Dave L2 - Butt strut
And possibly:
Si - Rear strut and body brace
That's 5 items, so I guess that might qualify!
I'll do some more research and post back here later.
Anybody else interested?
A.
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alfie, Sorry mate. I already have a butt strut awaiting fitting. My fault for hijacking your thread. Wont happen again
Loads of guys on z3mcoupe.com have had ss products delivered using the $50 package value and none have been queried as far as i know. Maybe worth a post on there to get additional support for the group buy.
Good luck.
PS the black finish looks fantastic. well impressed.
David
Loads of guys on z3mcoupe.com have had ss products delivered using the $50 package value and none have been queried as far as i know. Maybe worth a post on there to get additional support for the group buy.
Good luck.
PS the black finish looks fantastic. well impressed.
David
Thanks for all the PMs chaps.....
It's looking very healthy for a bulk buy.
Sorry to those I haven't got back to yet. Blame it on Zroadster being unavailable over lunchtime today!
It's looking like this would be much easier to deal with on email, so could you please PM me your email addresses and we can communicate that way.
Anyone else interested?
Just PM me your addy and I'll put you in the loop.
A.
It's looking very healthy for a bulk buy.
Sorry to those I haven't got back to yet. Blame it on Zroadster being unavailable over lunchtime today!
It's looking like this would be much easier to deal with on email, so could you please PM me your email addresses and we can communicate that way.
Anyone else interested?
Just PM me your addy and I'll put you in the loop.
A.
Strong strut
Hi Alfie
Can you e-mail me detaiols of the prices you have arranged for the group buy. I am interested in an alloy front strut. My e-mail address is :-
j.nary@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
John
Can you e-mail me detaiols of the prices you have arranged for the group buy. I am interested in an alloy front strut. My e-mail address is :-
j.nary@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
John
Strong strut
Hi Alfie
Can you e-mail me detaiols of the prices you have arranged for the group buy. I am interested in an alloy front strut. My e-mail address is :-
j.nary@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
John
Can you e-mail me detaiols of the prices you have arranged for the group buy. I am interested in an alloy front strut. My e-mail address is :-
j.nary@blueyonder.co.uk
Cheers
John
We currently have 12 interested Zedders, which puts us in a very 'strong' position for some serious discount.
I'll be sending emails to all that have pm'd me, but in the meantime.....
For front strut braces, these are the choices you need to make:
1. Material.
Steel ("Evolution") OR Alloy (Competition Lightweight "CL")
The steel is stronger, but heavier.
The difference in flex could probably be measured in microns, so not of any consequence in the real world.
And the difference in weight, although huge percentage wise, is negligible in terms of total mass of the car.
The prices are the same.
My choice would be steel, but apparently the S54 engine can only be accommodated by the CL model.
2. Finish.
If you want the steel strut, choose between Black powder coat OR Titanium powder coat OR Stainless Steel. Stainless is an extra cost option.
If you want the CL, choose between Black powder coat, Titanium powder coat or Galaxy.
I don't think you can get the steel in Galaxy or the CL in stainless, but I could be wrong. If you particularly want those, let me know and I'll find out.
3. Holes.
If you want the steel strut, you can have six weight-saving/decorative holes drilled as a cost option.
The CL has 11 holes as standard with no further options.
4. Accessory kits.
These are cost options, but I'm hoping that the 'group buy' will get a serious saving if you want them.
You can choose the 'small accessory kit' which includes some nice shiny stainless washers and 'acorn' nuts.
Or ///M owners can choose the 'large accessory kit' which has the stainless fixings and adds some black plastic covers for the strut tower tops. Apparently this option only fits ///M cars, but I can't see why.
5. Anything else from Strong Strut
Such as butt strut, body brace, air intakes, chrome handles, etc. I can't really help you with these items so please check out the website for more info, but they can all be included in the group buy.
Cheers!
A.
I'll be sending emails to all that have pm'd me, but in the meantime.....
For front strut braces, these are the choices you need to make:
1. Material.
Steel ("Evolution") OR Alloy (Competition Lightweight "CL")
The steel is stronger, but heavier.
The difference in flex could probably be measured in microns, so not of any consequence in the real world.
And the difference in weight, although huge percentage wise, is negligible in terms of total mass of the car.
The prices are the same.
My choice would be steel, but apparently the S54 engine can only be accommodated by the CL model.
2. Finish.
If you want the steel strut, choose between Black powder coat OR Titanium powder coat OR Stainless Steel. Stainless is an extra cost option.
If you want the CL, choose between Black powder coat, Titanium powder coat or Galaxy.
I don't think you can get the steel in Galaxy or the CL in stainless, but I could be wrong. If you particularly want those, let me know and I'll find out.
3. Holes.
If you want the steel strut, you can have six weight-saving/decorative holes drilled as a cost option.
The CL has 11 holes as standard with no further options.
4. Accessory kits.
These are cost options, but I'm hoping that the 'group buy' will get a serious saving if you want them.
You can choose the 'small accessory kit' which includes some nice shiny stainless washers and 'acorn' nuts.
Or ///M owners can choose the 'large accessory kit' which has the stainless fixings and adds some black plastic covers for the strut tower tops. Apparently this option only fits ///M cars, but I can't see why.
5. Anything else from Strong Strut
Such as butt strut, body brace, air intakes, chrome handles, etc. I can't really help you with these items so please check out the website for more info, but they can all be included in the group buy.
Cheers!
A.
I've sent out an email to all those that have sent me their addresses, detailing where we are at with the group buy.
There are currently 13 potential customers which is great, but it's not too late for others to join in......
If you've contacted me about this and HAVEN'T received today's email, please PM me.
And there is one person who hasn't sent me their email address, so please do ASAFHP.
Cheers!
A.
There are currently 13 potential customers which is great, but it's not too late for others to join in......
If you've contacted me about this and HAVEN'T received today's email, please PM me.
And there is one person who hasn't sent me their email address, so please do ASAFHP.
Cheers!
A.
From the other thread....
"We saw a comment on the forum that our web site is not clear which Strong-Strut is appropriate for the Z3......either the all steel Evolution model or the CL are appropriate. We highly recommend the CL for street and highway use and the steel Evolution model for owners who track their cars or are serious autocross competitors.
Thank you,
Paul"
Hope that clears things up.....
As an update, the group buy is progressing very well but there's still time to add your name to the list if you haven't already done so.
A.
Mr SS saw this and asked me to post the following:sundaydriver wrote:I had a similar problem when viewing the String Strut site after seeing Alfies SS group buy post.
The website seems little dis-jointed and difficult to follow in order to evaluate which strut is most suited to one's requirements.
"We saw a comment on the forum that our web site is not clear which Strong-Strut is appropriate for the Z3......either the all steel Evolution model or the CL are appropriate. We highly recommend the CL for street and highway use and the steel Evolution model for owners who track their cars or are serious autocross competitors.
Thank you,
Paul"
Hope that clears things up.....
As an update, the group buy is progressing very well but there's still time to add your name to the list if you haven't already done so.
A.
Got an email from Paul (Strong Strut) today, with a shipping/tracking number.
Your order can be tracked using http://www.parcelforce.com/portal/pw using the number in your email
(note you need to delete spaces between the letters and numbers in your tracking number)
Can't wait
Your order can be tracked using http://www.parcelforce.com/portal/pw using the number in your email
(note you need to delete spaces between the letters and numbers in your tracking number)
Can't wait
Excellent!Nero wrote:Got an email from Paul (Strong Strut) today, with a shipping/tracking number.
So I guess that means everyone's paid then? I've only had confirmation from 4 including myself. Not that it matters, just out of interest.
I didn't need to do that, I think the tracker feature rearranges the digits as required.Nero wrote:note you need to delete spaces between the letters and numbers in your tracking number
So in the end, we had 8 confirmed purchases (and I've just had another enquiry which could make it 9) which, although less than initial enquiries, was enough to get us a pretty good group-buy discount. That combined with the excellent exchange rate against the dollar gave us quality Strong Strut products at stunningly good prices.
If anyone else is still interested, it's not too late, so please PM me your email address and I'll send you all the details.
Cheers.
A.
Guys,
http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... 144#126144
With reference to the above thread, if your Zed tramlines at present, after you fit your new strut, can you let us know if this helps the tramlining?
(Gaz, it's not that I don't believe you, I think it would just be interesting to get others views.)
http://www.zroadster.net/forum/viewtopi ... 144#126144
With reference to the above thread, if your Zed tramlines at present, after you fit your new strut, can you let us know if this helps the tramlining?
(Gaz, it's not that I don't believe you, I think it would just be interesting to get others views.)
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What was the final price ?????
Gazza.
Gazza.
Gazza
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car, oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you"
Z3 S54 M roadster , BMW Z1, BMW M3 CSL, Z4M Coupe
WooHoo
According to the tracking, mine has left the local depot for delivery TODAY. Yaaay. . Can't recall now if I asked for delivery here to me at work (usually do), or to home address. Oh well, I'll find out soon enough.
Jonty
Jonty
Had contact from Paul @ Strong Strut yesterday
My brace has been delayed due to manufacturing problems (as mentioned by Alfie in email), and could be another 2 weeks
My brace has been delayed due to manufacturing problems (as mentioned by Alfie in email), and could be another 2 weeks
I spent most of my money on whisky, women and Z3's. The rest I just wasted.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
BTW - I am about to put my S54 M up for sale . . .
it has all 3 braces - am considering selling them separately if anyone is interested!
The car itself will go up for sale on PistonHeads next week - when the new ride arrives!
Khushy
The car itself will go up for sale on PistonHeads next week - when the new ride arrives!
Khushy