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Cost to replace clutch

Post by lightning » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 18:11

The clutch needs replacing on my Z3 3.0.

BMW quoted me £750. What's the going rate for a new clutch? My local garage says they can do it, but they haven't done one before and l am not sure l want them to practise on mine.
I am tempted to let BMW do it, but how far over the odds is that price?

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by RatSkin » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 19:49

just had mine done at Mr Clutch - under £300. No probs
only thing is.... have to keep going back for 'clutch checks' - dont see a need but if i want to keep the warranty in place, then so be it!
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Brian H » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 19:53

Did they say how many hrs it would take and how much the parts were? Things I would be wary of is things like the front downpipe exhaust mounting bolts, I am thinking that these will break when they come off, will BMW charge time and materials to repair or are these sorts of things included in the price. Do you have any good BMW Indys in your area?

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by mrscalex » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 22:08

Do these prices include flywheel resurface/replacement?

I always remember years ago at Mr Clutch my brother and I took his 1.6 Sierra in. They charged an advertised/guaranteed fixed price in those days regardless of any issues encountered . The lad who did it took us to one side when we picked it up and said the flywheel needed skimming. He'd asked permission from his boss to do it and his boss had said no to keep the cost down. Well fair play to the lad because he took it upon himself to ignore his boss and skim it anyway.
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by lightning » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 22:20

I've found a local BMW specialist in Stockport called "BayMoW" so have emailed them to see what they say.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by tfp » Tue 12 Jul, 2016 22:54

lightning wrote:I've found a local BMW specialist in Stockport called "BayMoW" so have emailed them to see what they say.
I've found that most specialist garages have been set up by one, or more, dealer trained technicians that have decided to start up on their own.

They eventually get sick of the "working for a main dealer" routines and stagnant pay packets.

We're lucky round our way, got a brilliant German car specialist, charges £45 per hour and he's been on so many courses, got so much experience, and time to talk to his customers.

Put your car into the BMW main dealer for a clutch and chances are you'll get a trainee working on your car because the master techs are busy doing the stuff the trainees can't do.

Now I know everyone has to learn, but I wouldn't want to pay £90 per hour and not know who's turning spanners on my pride and joy.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Southernboy » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 07:09

I bought all the parts myself and paid my mech labour only - total was £300 in your money. All LUK parts and 300ml clutch fluid. Considering the removal / replacement procedure (remove and replace heat shields, exhaust, prop shaft and gearbox) I considered it a "great price". I replaced clutch plate assembly incl thrust bearing. My fly wheel was still in perfect condition.
I did also take advantage of the opportunity to replace the prop shaft center bearing and the giubo whilst the whole lot was being stripped out. An important other issue to look at whilst the gearbox was out is the oil and coolant connections located behind the back end of the 6cyl motors which is a PITA to access under normal / fully assembled conditions.
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by DAVE P » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 09:40

I had mine done a couple of years ago by Darren Woods in Stockport/Bredbury well worth a call

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Flight » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 09:59

I paid £175.00 for my 3 piece Valeo clutch assy, which I didn't need, but thats another story. If you have access to a four post lift, and have some assistance it is a not too difficult job. Otherwise you are looking at 3 to 4 hours in a garage.
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by BladeRunner919 » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 12:36

mrscalex wrote:Do these prices include flywheel resurface/replacement?
I don't think you can skim a dual-mass flywheel.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by mrscalex » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 14:29

BladeRunner919 wrote:
mrscalex wrote:Do these prices include flywheel resurface/replacement?
I don't think you can skim a dual-mass flywheel.
I've read differing views on that but I don't know. Hence why I said /replacement.
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2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by pingu » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 15:10

Ask them what the pre-load is on the propshaft. If they don't know - walk away. They don't know how to do the job properly.
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by lightning » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 20:20

DAVE P wrote:I had mine done a couple of years ago by Darren Woods in Stockport/Bredbury well worth a call
That's less than five miles from me! I'll give him a ring tomorrow.
Thanks.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Brian H » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 21:18

pingu wrote:Ask them what the pre-load is on the propshaft. If they don't know - walk away. They don't know how to do the job properly.
Pls tell

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by mrscalex » Wed 13 Jul, 2016 23:06

Brian H wrote:
pingu wrote:Ask them what the pre-load is on the propshaft. If they don't know - walk away. They don't know how to do the job properly.
Pls tell
Well it's forced me to lookup what it means. I'm all informed now!
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Brian H » Fri 15 Jul, 2016 18:53

mrscalex wrote:
Brian H wrote:
pingu wrote:Ask them what the pre-load is on the propshaft. If they don't know - walk away. They don't know how to do the job properly.
Pls tell
Well it's forced me to lookup what it means. I'm all informed now!
I'll have to do the same as Pingu is AWOL

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Del » Sat 16 Jul, 2016 13:45

Because of the traditional layout and rear wheel drive, changing the clutch on a Z3 should be a relatively simple job for a competent mechanic. Some of the bolts present a slight “access challenge” because the Z3 is a more tightly sandwiched E36. Because of the age of the cars it is worth investigating whether a more comprehensive renovation needs doing which could include the flywheel, replacing gear oil, replacing the rubber guibo, central prop shaft bearing and gearbox mountings.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by lightning » Sat 16 Jul, 2016 15:44

I had a reply from BayMow who are a local BMW indy.

Quote is around £400 so will likely give it to them.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by NZ00Z3 » Mon 18 Jul, 2016 22:29

The cost and options available to you is dependent on what is being replaced. Unfortunately you may not know what needs to be replaced until the gear box is out and the clutch is apart.

If its the pressure plate, clutch plate, release bearing and pilot bearing that are getting replaced, then shop around for the cheapest quote.

It the replacement includes the Dual Mass Flywheel (DMF), expect the cost to double. The DMF is expensive. You will now have the option of fitting a complete aftermarket clutch from flywheel to release bearing. Check out Valeo http://www.valeoserviceusa.com/products ... rsion-kits

There may be other suppliers that have kits too.

If this car is your daily drive, don't be tempted by stage 2 clutch kits. While they are very good, you will get a heavier peddle which is not so good for stop/start traffic.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by Joycey » Wed 20 Jul, 2016 13:12

Pingu's referring to the preload applied on the prop shaft bearing. I've changed a few z3 clutches at home. Not a hugely complicated job just time consuming. All in not including my own time the cost came to £170 for LUK parts.

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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by pingu » Thu 21 Jul, 2016 23:38

Joycey wrote:Pingu's referring to the preload applied on the prop shaft bearing. I've changed a few z3 clutches at home. Not a hugely complicated job just time consuming. All in not including my own time the cost came to £170 for LUK parts.

Lee
Yes. The bearing is pushed towards the engine by a number of millimetres I can't remember, but look up on TIS :rtm: .
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Re: Cost to replace clutch

Post by lightning » Fri 22 Jul, 2016 08:11

The car has only done 55,000 miles so hopefully the DMF will be OK.

But if it needs a new one, it will still be no dearer than the BMW dealer quoted to replace just the clutch.

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