Removing front subframe

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bowei001
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  Z3 roadster 2.0
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Removing front subframe

Post by bowei001 » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 10:18

Over the winter I would like to refurbish my front subframe and suspension. I know that the engine has to be supported to remove the subframe but where is the best place to support the ehgine from above? At the front there is what appears to be a lifting eye but it is flimsy and attached to the vanos with tiny bolts and probably wouldn't hold anything. Is there somewhere that a lifting eye can attach and is it possible to support the engine with a support beam across the body or does it have to be an engine hoist? A hoist would make removing the frame difficult if it went in from the front because of the hoist legs but from the side might be a bit better.
If anyone has done this their suggestions would be appreciated.

Del
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Re: Removing front subframe

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mrscalex
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Re: Removing front subframe

Post by mrscalex » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 12:34

Good thread - thanks. I might be about to take a front subframe out myself.
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2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
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Re: Removing front subframe

Post by Rafolian » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 13:16

Very good thread, interesting about changing the wishbone balljoints. Last year my 2.8 failed it's ITV (MOT) on a balljoint.
I replaced both wishbones complete, including lollypop bushes, £82 on fleabay inc p+p to Spain, bargain!!

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Re: Removing front subframe

Post by Deano1712 » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 17:54

Thats a link to my old thread!

Don't bother with E30 ball joints the ones I fitted didn't last long and I ended up buying a new wishbone.


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bowei001
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Re: Removing front subframe

Post by bowei001 » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 19:37

Thanks for the link, Del. I'm thinking that it will be an engine hoist and a balancing beam job as although an engine support beam would be easier, there isn't really a bodywork wing channel to support a beam as there is on a saloon car. From pictures on the internet, it seems the rather flimsy front lifting eye IS used in conjunction with an eye at the back of the engine to lift out a whole engine & gearbox so they should be OK just to take the weight of the engine. If anyone has used a support beam, I would be interested to know the make and where they put it on the car.

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Re: Removing front subframe

Post by mrscalex » Fri 04 Nov, 2016 19:41

I've not heard the lifting eye called flimsy before! As long as you're sure what your looking at is the lifting eye then that's what it's there for and I've never heard anyone have issues with it.
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1999 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Dimitri) - My brother's car owned from new and restored by me
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Trudy) - My car rebuilt from a write-off
2002 Z3 2.2 Titan Silver (Okus) - Project car waiting for a new engine
2001 Z3 2.2 Topaz Blue (Debra) - Donor car/breaker
1998 Z3 1.9 Boston Green (Allsworth) - Donor car/breaker now gone to Z3 heaven
Always happy to try and help with spares :)

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