Braided clutch hose

Boysie · Post by **Boysie** » Tue 03 Mar, 2009 22:32

Hi

I was hoping that somebody might be able help.

I purchased a braided clutch hose for my car quite some time back,
I left it packaged in the glove compartment of the car, and finally got around to having it fitted.

And I am sure i got the supplier from on here.

If my meomory serves me, they were based near or at silverstone.
Some months back I had it fitted at Munich legends and complained that
I had to keep toppping up the hydralic fluid.

Well it turned out that the hose was porous through the braid.

I want to complain to the supplier and maybe get a refund
as i had to pay for a standard hose and the cost of fitting

Ray

Gazza · Post by **Gazza** » Tue 03 Mar, 2009 23:04

That'll be

Earls Performance Products (UK) Ltd
Unit 17
Silverstone Circuit
Silverstone, Towcester
Northamptonshire, NN12 8TL
Tel: 01327 858221

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Tue 03 Mar, 2009 23:49

Let's us know how you get on as I have just had one fitted from there

Am chuffed with it but if there is a fault with them I would rather know

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 11:15

Braided hoses are very fragile compared to the rubber hoses. A rubber hose can be twisted, bent back on itself etc and it won't break but a braided hose is brittle inside and doesn't like being twisted or bent more than a certain radius otherwise they'll likely fracture.

Boysie · Post by **Boysie** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 12:26

Cheers Gary

For the number

I contacted Earls they said they would presure test it
and send me another one

Not a happy boy as this costing me far too much money

The comment they are fragile maybe so
but they are fitted on high performance cars
Just think if this was a braided brake hose

Ray

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 12:59

Boysie wrote:Cheers Gary

For the number

I contacted Earls they said they would presure test it
and send me another one

Not a happy boy as this costing me far too much money

The comment they are fragile maybe so
but they are fitted on high performance cars
Just think if this was a braided brake hose

It's the same with braided brake hoses really. Once they're fitted properly and in their designed working environment then they shouldn't ever fail. What I meant was that they aren't as tough at non-designed forces like bending and twisting as a regular rubber hose. Eg; if you have braided brake hoses and you change your pads, IF by accident you let the caliper drop and hang off the normal hose it'll probably be ok but with a braided hose you'll probably break it. Same if you perhaps twist the caliper the wrong way when fitting it back it could fracture the teflon inner core.

Boysie · Post by **Boysie** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 13:35

Hi

I do understand what you are saying.
but this was a new hose and fitted by professionals.
Unfortunately there is always one that is faulty,
and i am the person who seems to get that one.

Ray

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 13:39

Boysie wrote:Hi

I do understand what you are saying.
but this was a new hose and fitted by professionals.
Unfortunately there is always one that is faulty,
and i am the person who seems to get that one.

Ray

Yea that is unfortunate! I suppose just getting a refund is now what you're after (ie no bothering replacing it back with another braided one)?

Jonttt · Post by **Jonttt** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 15:37

Will be interesting what they say when they test it. Whats the betting they reckon it shows signs of damage not associated with it manufacture ie after they sent it to you

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed 04 Mar, 2009 18:39

jonttt wrote:Will be interesting what they say when they test it. Whats the betting they reckon it shows signs of damage not associated with it manufacture ie after they sent it to you

My experience with Earls suggests they are not that sort of company. If this was an error in manufacture then they will own up to it and send a new one / refund. They are good guys.

It is also possible that the garage damaged it during install? If they did, would they own up to it?

SpunkyM · Post by **SpunkyM** » Thu 05 Mar, 2009 13:18

Are you sure it's not just one of the unions that is not tight enough and the fluid is running down the hose? That would seem more likely to me.

I don't agree that these things are particularly fragile tbh.

c_w · Post by **c_w** » Thu 05 Mar, 2009 13:52

SpunkyM wrote:Are you sure it's not just one of the unions that is not tight enough and the fluid is running down the hose? That would seem more likely to me.

I don't agree that these things are particularly fragile tbh.

Bend one back on itself and find out

Do the same with a rubber hose and it'll bounce back as if nothing has happend. There's a much bigger risk of them fracturing if the suspension goes beyond it's normal limits (perhaps if the car is lowered and on full lock). I agree they are very durable in their normal working conditions but accidentally drop the caliper when removing it to change pads and the braided one is more likely to fracture than a rubber hose. I had braided front hoses on my 205GTI but one failed so I put them both back to rubber hoses.

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